Designer virus is attacking the old and weak

From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 4 Mar 2020 13:43
To: ALL1 of 31
This is one way to kill off the Baby Boom generation…
Italy’s large elderly population bearing brunt of coronavirus
Many have underlying conditions, making fight against Covid-19 more complex
Italy’s large elderly population poses a challenge in slowing the number of coronavirus deaths in the worst-affected country in Europe, a health specialist has said.
The virus has killed 79 people in Italy, overwhelmingly aged between 63 and 95 with underlying serious illnesses.
The youngest patient to die was 55 and suffering from chronic disease. A 61-year-old doctor who was not known to have underlying health problems has also died.
The death toll, provided by officials on Tuesday night, marked an increase of 27 in 24 hours. Twenty-three per cent of the Italian population is over 65, making it the oldest in the world after Japan.
“Italy is a country of old people,” said Prof Massimo Galli, the director of infectious diseases at Sacco hospital in Milan. “The elderly with previous pathologies are notoriously numerous here. I think this could explain why we are seeing more serious cases of coronavirus here, which I repeat, in the vast majority of cases start mildly and cause few problems, especially in young people and certainly in children.
“Our life expectancy is among the highest in the world. But unfortunately, in a situation like this, old people are more at risk of a serious outcome.”
The are more than 2,500 people infected in Italy. Health workers have carried out 25,856 swab tests, significantly dwarfing the number undertaken in other European countries.
Those tested include Pope Francis, 83, after he was forced to cancel engagements this week because of a cold. He returned a negative result, Il Messaggero newspaper reported on Tuesday.
The majority of cases – 1,520 – are in the northern Lombardy region, where 10 towns have been under lockdown for more than a week. The virus has spread to more than half of Italy’s 20 regions, including Tuscany, Puglia, Sicily and recently Sardinia.
Authorities say the majority of people who tested positive in other regions were travelling from Lombardy or had been in the north for a few weeks before the outbreak.
Of those infected, 1034 are in hospital – 229 in intensive care – and 1,229 are recovering at home. The number of people who have recovered from the illness has more than doubled to 160.
Researchers at Sacco hospital last week isolated a strain of the virus from an Italian patient, which suggests Covid-19 may have circulated in northern Italy for weeks before it was detected.
Galli said: “It has been claimed that the so-called Italian virus is very different from the Chinese one. These are simply rumours. We are currently mapping out the sequences and only afterwards can we know.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 4 Mar 2020 13:44
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 2 of 31
Check out the above post about how this corona virus is targeting mostly the Baby Boomers.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 4 Mar 2020 13:56
To: ALL3 of 31
More proof that this is a "Designer virus," aimed at the elderly....

'We simply do not understand why': Coronavirus is sparing children, puzzling experts

As the novel coronavirus spreads around the globe, sickening more than 90,000 people and killing about 3,000, doctors have noticed something curious: Very few children have been diagnosed with it. And of those who have, most have had mild cases.

In China, where the outbreak started, children comprise just 2.4 percent of all reported cases of COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, a World Health Organization-China Joint Mission report from last month found. Of those, only a sliver — 2.5 percent — experienced severe symptoms, and an even tinier proportion — 0.2 percent — became critically ill. Worldwide, there have been no deaths reported so far in young children.

The coronavirus' mercy on children is a relief and a mystery to pediatric infectious diseases experts, who have a handful of working theories but no definitive answers for why.

"This is one of the unusual findings and curveballs that this virus keeps throwing at us," said Dr. Frank Esper, a pediatric infectious diseases specialist at Cleveland Clinic Children's, whose research focuses on viral respiratory infections and newly recognized infectious diseases. "Normal coronaviruses seem to affect children and adults equally, but this one, for whatever reason, certainly skews more to the adult population."

The answer may lie in the difference between children's and adult's immune systems, said Dr. Vanessa Raabe, an assistant professor in pediatric and adult infectious diseases at NYU Langone. As people age, their immune systems weaken, she said, potentially making it harder for them to fight off illnesses.

"We've seen similar patterns for other diseases — chickenpox, for example. Adults who get it tend to get much more severe cases than children," she said.

There are other possible explanations. Children, who are typically bombarded with certain other coronaviruses, such as the ones that cause the common cold, may have antibodies in their bloodstream from exposure to those that offers some cross-protection for this virus, said Dr. Buddy Creech, an associate professor of pediatric infectious diseases at Vanderbilt Children's Hospital.

"Kids with this novel coronavirus, maybe they are responding like they would any other coronavirus, where they get a little runny nose, a little cough, or very mild symptoms, because they have seen coronavirus before, and maybe that provides them a little more protection," he said.

Or, Creech said, children's immune responses might be more tempered than that of adults, which he said may be going "haywire" in response to the new illness.

"Children's immune systems are used to being assaulted constantly, so it's to their benefit to coordinate and regulate their response," he said. "At the end of the day, if they freaked out about every single virus every time, they would be in the ICU. Instead, kids are really good at making good, fast immune responses."

There has yet to be any definitive sign that the theories pan out, though, Creech added.

"We simply do not understand why kids have been spared," he said.

Initially, experts thought children were tolerating the new coronavirus better because they had healthier lungs that had been exposed to less cigarette smoke and pollutants than adults had, especially in China, where air quality is a known problem. Smoking, in particular, raises the amount of a particular receptor in the lungs that other coronaviruses, like the severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, attaches to, so medical professionals wondered if having more of that receptor was leading to a higher likeliness of getting the illness — or getting it more severely.

But as the virus spread, that theory didn't necessarily hold.

"The problem is we're still seeing this age-relatedness, where the most severe disease is related to age, outside of China," Esper said.

Experts then questioned whether children simply were not getting exposed as frequently. With SARS, the virus stayed within certain populations, particularly hospitals, Creech said.

But with the new coronavirus, "the virus seems to be transmitted just fine, and it still appears that younger kids under 10 to 15 years of age simply aren't getting disease, or if they are, they're not getting too many symptoms," Creech said.

This does not mean that children can't transmit the virus to other, more vulnerable members of the community. As testing becomes more widely available in the United States, more cases in children are likely to be detected, according to Esper.
EDITED: 4 Mar 2020 13:56 by RAZZMAN
From: Carl (SPARTACUS) 5 Mar 2020 08:54
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 4 of 31
I read that 75% are medical workers and folks with pre existing conditions (Baby Boomers). Stay away from hospitals etc
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 5 Mar 2020 15:21
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 5 of 31
That's why I'm so paranoid about this whole pandemic. I'm at extremely high risk, with my age and my asthma. It affects the respiratory system, and I've had bronchitis many times. It also affects men more.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 5 Mar 2020 15:23
To: ALL6 of 31
More Corona news from Natural News...

WHO admits global coronavirus death rate HIGHER than initially thought: Now 3.4%

Thursday, March 05, 2020 by: Michael Alexander    

Natural News) The global mortality rate for coronavirus (COVID-19), the disease caused by the new coronavirus that first appeared in China and is now spreading across the globe, is much higher than what was previously thought, the World Health Organization (WHO) said.

The WHO, in an announcement from their headquarters in Geneva on Tuesday, set the new rate at 3.4 percent, a number that’s much higher compared to their previous estimate, which was pegged at 2 percent.

“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during the press briefing.

The WHO previously said that the mortality rate of the coronavirus globally could range from 0.7 to up to four percent – depending on the quality of the healthcare system of the country where it is being treated. Early in the outbreak’s onset, however, scientists had concluded the death rate would be around 2.3 percent.

During an earlier press briefing held Monday, WHO officials admitted that they don’t know how COVID-19 behaves, adding that they still don’t have any idea as to how the infection is transmitted and what treatments will work to effectively stop the disease.

“This is a unique virus, with unique features. This virus is not influenza,” Ghebreyesus said during the Monday press briefing. “We are in uncharted territory.”

Ghebreyesus made the statement after several people highlighted what seemed to be overlapping symptoms of both influenza or flu and the coronavirus (COVID-19). This has prompted inquiries as to whether standard flu medication can be used to stop the spread of the new infection.

He also noted in a statement that the coronavirus (COVID-19), which has infected over 95,126 globally, with 3,253 confirmed dead, does not transmit as efficiently as the flu, based on data that they have so far.

According to Ghebreyesus, this means that containment is “still possible.”

Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO’s Health Emergencies Program, said this finding has given health officials a glimmer of light that the virus could be contained.

“Here we have a disease for which we have no vaccine, no treatment, we don’t fully understand transmission, we don’t fully understand case mortality, but what we have been genuinely heartened by is that unlike influenza, where countries have fought back, where they’ve put in place strong measures, we’ve remarkably seen that the virus is suppressed,” Ryan added.

“We don’t even talk about containment for seasonal flu — it’s just not possible. But it is possible for COVID-19,” Ghebreyesus said. “We don’t do contact tracing for seasonal flu, but countries should do it for COVID-19 because it will prevent infections and save lives.”
Coronavirus mortality rate still subject to change – experts

Health experts, meanwhile, say the fatality rate of the novel coronavirus is still subject to change, with the rate possibly set to drop as the number of cases continues to rise. According to experts, this is because an estimated 80 percent of the coronavirus cases are mild and that the patients checking into hospitals have the most severe symptoms. A report released by Business Insider revealed that people with symptoms mild enough to recover at home without seeking medical treatment are not counted in the official records.

As of press time, the coronavirus is confirmed to have infected 95,126 people, with 3,253 confirmed dead, mostly in China. The disease has since spread to at least 58 other countries, including the U.S., which has more than 125 cases so far, with 11 recorded deaths.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS) 6 Mar 2020 08:40
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 7 of 31
Stay away from medical facilities and workers. Wash your hands more and do not touch your face. You will be fine.

The CDC reports that 16,000 people died from the flu last year. I would be more concerned about that and being one of the 38,800 folks dying in a car crash.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 6 Mar 2020 08:47
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 8 of 31
I hear you about dying from a car accident. The drivers have gotten a lot worse the past decade or two, IMO. You have so many tailgaters, people who want to drive 80 in a 55 speed limit, and then there are those who cut you off, leaving only inches in front of them.

And then it's worse for pedestrians! My son has close encounters of the wrong kind every day when he walks from his work to my office for a ride home. He's crossing an intersection with the green light facing him and the WALK sign, but drivers try to cut him or and almost hit him...and this happens on a daily basis.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS) 9 Mar 2020 12:11
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 9 of 31
Yes. More pedestrians than ever were killed last year.

Pedestrian Fatalities on U.S. Roads Hit Almost 30-Year High. Oct. 22, 2019, at 8:09 a.m. WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. traffic deaths fell 2.4% in 2018 to 36,560 although the number of pedestrians killed rose to its highest level in nearly three decades, the U.S. auto safety agency said Tuesday.Oct 22, 2019  
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 9 Mar 2020 13:01
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 10 of 31
I am extremely cautious when crossing the roads in Buffalo. I look behind me and all around and most times give the car the right of way, even if I have it.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)10 Mar 2020 09:15
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 11 of 31
I think a lot of illegals are driving and killing people. A family of four from Mass just got killed in an accident by an illegal near Disney in Florida. Also, folks are walking around looking at their phones and not looking around like you do.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)10 Mar 2020 20:08
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 12 of 31
I think that the Millennials and the Generation Z drivers are not nearly as courteous as the Baby Boomers. The new kids on the block are reckless and are in such a hurry to get to their destination. They cut in and out of lanes on the expressway, sometime not even signalling and almost hitting you as they cut into your path. Their rush and recklessness are resulting in many accidents.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)11 Mar 2020 07:45
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 13 of 31
I agree... make sure to look both ways and plan for the worst scenario.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)11 Mar 2020 12:44
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 14 of 31
If it's a matter of my mass vs the mass of a car, the car will always win. I only cross when it appears as if no car will turn the corner into me.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)12 Mar 2020 09:58
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 15 of 31
They closed school in my town. I expect it will continue through all next week.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)12 Mar 2020 12:54
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 16 of 31
All the colleges in my area are going with online and television classes until further notice. A youth hockey tournament will be held this weekend with an empty arena. The Blue Jackets will be playing  in front of empty seats tonight.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)13 Mar 2020 10:21
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 17 of 31
Meanwhile the average age of ppl who did is 80!!!
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)13 Mar 2020 14:28
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 18 of 31
Here's an article I read that shows that COVID-19 is much worse than the seasonal flu!

After weeks of trying to downplay the Coronavirus, Donald Trump may be starting to realize just how serious and deadly this situation is. Maybe if he shut down the flights into the U.S., there would hardly be any cases in the States. But now the cat is out of the bag, and Pandora's Box has been opened.

Trump tried to downplay the Coronavirus as not as bad as the flu. But the way it's spreading and the future toll of American lives will make his comparison look weak.

Covid-19 is not the flu. It’s worse.

It’s deadlier, more contagious, and more likely to severely disrupt our health care system.

By Brian Mar 13, 2020, 11:10am EDT

In early March, President Donald Trump tweeted a statistic he said we all should “think about.”

It was a comparison of the flu to the current coronavirus pandemic. The flu kills tens of thousands of people a year, he reminded us. At the time, only under a dozen or so people in the US had died of Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. The tweet read a lot like much of the rhetoric coming out of the White House, which, for weeks now, has been trying to downplay the severity of the situation.
A lot of people besides Trump have been comparing the coronavirus to flu. And it’s a question friends and family members who want to know how worried they should be keep asking me: Isn’t this like the flu?

So, a quick unambiguous answer: No, this is not like the seasonal flu. It is worse.

Put simply, while the exact death rate is not yet clear, this disease kills a larger proportion of people than the flu (and it’s particularly lethal for people older than 80).
It also has a higher potential to overwhelm our health care system and hurt people with other illnesses.

At present, there is also no vaccine to combat it, nor any approved therapeutics to slow the course of its toll on the human body. (Doctors can treat cytokine storm syndrome, an immune response that may in some cases be dealing the fatal blow to those dying of Covid-19.)

Sober-minded epidemiologists say, without exaggeration, that 20 to 60 percent of the world’s adult population could end up catching this virus.

Biologically, it behaves differently than the flu. It takes around five days for Covid-19 infection to develop symptoms. For the flu, it’s two days. That potentially gives people more time to spread the illness asymptomatically before they know they are sick.

Around the country, health care providers are worried about their facilities being overrun with an influx of patients, and having to ration lifesaving medical supplies.

“We’re already overwhelmed here, in terms of patients coming in the middle of a terrible influenza season,” says Barbara North, the medical director of a small, rural clinic in Northern California. If the pandemic hits her community, her clinic is the only provider for miles. She fears they’d be overrun. “We are struggling to establish the isolation and infection precautions needed at the clinic.”

Three months ago, this virus was not known to science. No human immune system had seen it before January, so no unexposed human has any natural immunity to it. That means it’s more contagious than the flu — about twice as contagious, perhaps more; the numbers are still being worked out.

This is bad. It’s bad enough to roil our stock markets, put people out of work, potentially cause a recession, and infect millions, if not billions, of people around the world. It could also kill millions, both here and abroad.

It’s possible that Covid-19 will become endemic — meaning it will be a disease that regularly attacks humans and will not go away until there’s a treatment or a vaccine.

Yes, flu variants kill tens of thousands a year in the US. But imagine if there was another kind of flu, “except potentially with a higher case fatality rate,” Angela Rasmussen, a Columbia University virologist, told me recently. “Which is definitely a problem because the seasonal flu kills 30,000 to 60,000 Americans every year. And even if it’s the same case fatality rate of seasonal flu, that still presents a substantial public health burden.”

If that spooks you, now is the time to take a deep breath, and know that there are many things you can do to prepare (read more about them here). We can still avoid the worst-case scenario.
It’s okay to feel fearful of Covid-19. It’s just human.

I think I get why Trump is so eager to compare Covid-19 to the flu.

Flu is a regular occurrence, and its toll is something that we’ve grown numb to. Psychology teaches us a depressing lesson here: As we think about larger and larger numbers of people, our empathy and our ability to care and take action decreases. It’s called psychic numbing — and studies show our willingness to take action to protect others even decreases when the number of victims increases from one, to two.

By mentioning the flu numbers, Trump is hoping to get people thinking of big numbers, and induce numbing. He might want us to think: Tens of thousands of people die of the flu, this new disease isn’t a big deal.

Paul Slovic, one of the lead psychologists who has studied psychic numbing, says he doesn’t expect Americans to grow numb to this growing crisis. It hits on a lot of the psychological buttons that tell us to be fearful.

Slovic does call comparisons to the flu “misleading.” But he doesn’t think people are going to fall for it.

“People are not numb with regard to this new virus,” Slovic writes in an email. “This virus hits all the risk perception ‘hot buttons’ ... It is new, unfamiliar, and hard to control through individual or societal action. There is no vaccine and it spreads invisibly, adding to the difficulty of controlling it. It can be fatal and widespread (hence pandemic). All of these qualities ramp up the dread feelings that we have long known to be the major drivers of risk perception.”

It’s okay to be a bit scared in times like these. It’s natural, and extremely human. I can even understand why many people might be asking the flu comparison question themselves, in an attempt to maybe numb themselves to the stark reality we’re facing. (Trump, and other leaders, should know better, and not give people seeking psychological relief an easy out.)

But we can’t be numb. We can channel fear into useful tasks. The bigger concern is that people won’t act in the way people really need to. During a flu season, schools aren’t typically shut down, people don’t stop going to the movies. To fight Covid-19 requires a much larger disruption in our lives.

For what it’s worth, in his Oval Office address on March 11, Trump did outline the danger of the situation, and gave basic, decent, public health advice. But it might not make up for the months of him trying to downplay the outbreak.

If you see people make the flu comparison, don’t be fooled into thinking that Covid-19 is an equivalent. It doesn’t look as bad as the flu in terms of raw numbers. But the top minds modeling this outbreak fear that will change. And again, we really need to act differently than normal to prevent contagion and deaths.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)23 Mar 2020 14:09
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 19 of 31
I agree it is very contagious however it’s effect on healthy people has to be determined. 
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)23 Mar 2020 15:16
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 20 of 31
Me being a conspiracy man, I came up with this Chinese bio weapon theory. Then Mike Adams posted that article.