Breakthrough Covid cases on the rise!

From: Razz (RAZZMAN)12 Nov 2021 11:13
To: ALL1 of 51

It appears as if the Covid vaccines produced by several companies are not doing their job. The breakthrough cases are on the rise. It is now reported that people who first got their Covid shots in the early stages are now coming down with Covid-19. Apparently, the shot loses its effectiveness after just a few months. Booster shots have been offered to the seniors and those with immune deficiencies, and now there's talk about giving the boosters to everyone over 18.

The question I ask is why didn't they produce a vaccine that lasted at least a year? They rushed into the research to quickly produce a vaccine, but it didn't prevent breakthrough cases, which are now on the rise. It appears as if the vaccine gets less effective as time goes by and is almost useless after half a year. This whole thing may have been a money making scheme and it wasn't done as a long term answer to this epidemic.

According to the article today in the Buffalo News, one third of the people hospitalized in Erie County were breakthrough cases. Fifty percent of the new cases in Niagara County were breakthrough cases.

We were told, over and over by the “scientists” and health experts that the Covid shot was the best way to prevent getting Covid and staying out of the hospital. Now we know that we were being lied to.

Breakthrough Covid cases on the rise as vaccines may be “running out of gas.”

Multiple studies find efficacy begins to wane within months

By Thomas J. Prohaska
Nov 12, 2021

The number of people who have been vaccinated against Covid-19 has continued to go up in Western New York. So is the percentage of people who are testing positive for the virus, one of the more vexing statistics associated with the pandemic.

But a doctor who specializes in infectious diseases has seen a wrinkle in that trend that could explain why it is happening and why hospitalizations are not seeing as sharp an increase.

Dr. Kevin Shiley, an infectious disease specialist at Catholic Health, said Wednesday that breakthrough cases – confirmed Covid infections among people who already have been vaccinated – are being seen most often among the people who obtained vaccinations first.

As of Tuesday, the Erie County Health Department said, one-third of the 168 people hospitalized with Covid in the county were patients who already had received the vaccine. That proportion was lower in Niagara County, where seven of the 30 residents hospitalized with Covid on Tuesday were breakthroughs.

Erie County did not offer a figure for the number of breakthroughs among the 2,690 new cases it reported for the week that ended Tuesday, while Niagara County estimated about one-half of its 703 cases for the week were people who had already been vaccinated.

"From what I can tell, a lot of this is, the vaccine seems to be running out of gas, so to speak, in terms of that protective effect against severe illness," Shiley said in an interview.

The idea is taking hold among public health experts and researchers. The New York Times on Thursday cited multiple studies showing that vaccine effectiveness begins to wane within months. A study in England found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is about 90% effective at preventing symptomatic infection two weeks after the second dose but drops to 70% effective after five months, the Times reported.

That research is behind the push in some quarters to make booster shots available to anyone who wants one. But it also shows that while breakthrough infections are rising, the vaccines are doing what they are supposed to do when it comes to preventing serious illness and death in most people.

Now, it seems, that protection is wearing off, and that could be a factor in the region's rising positivity rates.

Some officials and doctors have said the region's positivity rate, higher than elsewhere in the state, can be blamed on a lower percentage of people being vaccinated than in other regions. Shiley said he does not believe that is the case.

“Our vaccine rates are probably not the main driver," Shiley said. "For a lot of the people who are having breakthroughs, it times out very well with when they were vaccinated. If anything, it may reflect that we as a community need to do a better job getting booster shots for anyone that’s eligible.”

From: Razz (RAZZMAN)12 Nov 2021 11:16
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 2 of 51
The post above was supposed to be to you, not to all. I started to post it, and lost the page. Had to repost it. Anyway, check out the post above. The vaccines are practically useless after half a year. To have to get a shot (or 2) every half a year is ridiculous. This fact that you need to get the vaccine twice a year adds fuel to those resisting getting the vaccine in the first place.
EDITED: 12 Nov 2021 11:40 by RAZZMAN
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)12 Nov 2021 12:59
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 3 of 51
Exactly. I think the vaxxes work, but do not last more than 6 months. The best immunity is natural.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)12 Nov 2021 15:35
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 4 of 51
I just watched the Dr. Oz show today at the beginning. They were talking about how to boost your natural immunity. I usually don't watch this show, but the topic got me to watch. Several things they talked about was Probiotics and how they help. Also they talked about vitamin D3 and even Tart Cherry Juice and how that helps you sleep which boosts your Melatonin. They also talked about zinc. I was taking zinc, but the dose 50 mg was too much according to sources. My multivitamin has 15 mg, so I cut it out. I could cut the zinc tablets in half and then it would equal the max they suggested, which was 40 mg.

My son doesn't want to get a shot every six months and I'm sure a lot feel the same.

Australia says covid shots will be FOREVER… every 6 to 12 months until you die

 Trent Twomey, president of the Pharmacy Guild of Australia (PGA), says that Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “booster” shots will more than likely become an annual or even semi-annual ritual “for the foreseeable future” – which means forever.

Aussies are already being required to take both of the first two mRNA (messenger RNA) injections, as well as a third booster, in order to remain “fully vaccinated.” That will likely soon morph into fourth and fifth injections, followed by infinity injections.

“The question is what booster and what interval we need to get that booster, whether it’s every six, nine, or 12 months,” Twomey stated nonchalantly to a local media outlet about the next phase of the plandemic.

“Those decisions need to be based on evidence and facts and at the moment that is an evolving space.”

It will more than likely take until 2023 for Australia to “reach some sort of steady-state vaccination program,” Twomey warns, similar to the annual flu shot ritual with which many are already familiar.

“In time, we will treat covid like many other viruses that have been around for decades, and a covid-19 shot will just be another element of the Australian vaccination program,” he insists.

From: Carl (SPARTACUS)13 Nov 2021 09:25
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 5 of 51
They did not completely test out the vaxxes. Repeated vaxxes every 6 months is unknown territory. I always thought a "vaccine" was a one time cure. Now they should change the name to something like the shot of the month....

I really believe in probiotics and take them all the time.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)13 Nov 2021 11:53
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 6 of 51
I will continue to wear my  KN95 mask along with a cloth cover when I go inside places. When I shop at Wegmans, I usually use 2 surgical masks along with the cover because I can breathe a little better with that setup.

I took take probiotics every day. Along with mixing ACV in the water I drink when taking my other supplements.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 7 Jan 10:49
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 7 of 51
I just read an article on the NY Times that claims a British report says that the booster shots wane just after 10 weeks.

The Pfizer booster dropped from 70 percent one week after the booster to 45 percent after 10 weeks.

With this in mind, expect the CDC to recommend people to get a booster every 2 months!!

Booster protection wanes after 10 weeks against symptomatic Omicron infections, British data suggests

By Emily Anthes
NY Times

Dec. 23, 2021

New data from Britain suggests that booster protection against symptomatic Covid caused by the Omicron variant wanes within 10 weeks.

There have not yet been enough severe cases of Omicron to calculate how well boosters protect against severe disease, but experts believe the shots will continue to provide significant protection against hospitalization and death.

“It will be a few weeks before effectiveness against severe disease with Omicron can be estimated,” the new report, from Britain’s Health Security Agency, noted. “However, based on experience with previous variants, this is likely to be substantially higher than the estimates against symptomatic disease.”

In the weeks since Omicron was discovered, multiple studies have suggested that the variant is skilled at evading the antibodies that are produced after vaccination or after infection with the coronavirus.

The new report from Britain, which included data on people who had received the AstraZeneca, Pfizer or Moderna shots, confirmed that the vaccines — both the initial two-shot series and booster doses — were less effective and waned faster against Omicron than against Delta.

Among people who received two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine, a booster with one of the mRNA vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, was 60 percent effective at preventing symptomatic disease two to four weeks after the shot. After 10 weeks, however, the Pfizer booster was just 35 percent effective.  The Moderna booster was 45 percent effective at up to nine weeks. (The AstraZeneca vaccine is not authorized in the United States, but the Johnson & Johnson shot uses a similar technology.)

For people who were given three Pfizer doses, vaccine effectiveness dropped from 70 percent one week after the booster to 45 percent after 10 weeks. Pfizer recipients who received a Moderna booster, on the other hand, seemed to fare better; their vaccine regimen remained up to 75 percent effective at up to nine weeks.

The report, which was based on an analysis of about 148,000 Delta cases and 68,000 Omicron cases, also included recent data suggesting that Omicron infections are less likely to lead to hospitalizations than Delta infections. The findings should be interpreted cautiously, the agency noted, because there have still not been many Omicron cases, relatively speaking, and the people who have contracted the variant may not be representative of the broader population.

The Biden administration has been encouraging all eligible Americans to receive booster shots as Omicron spreads.

In a recent interview on WCBS-AM, a New York radio station, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease doctor, said that officials were monitoring the effectiveness of mRNA boosters against Omicron.

“I do think it’s premature, at least on the part of the United States, to be talking about a fourth dose,” he said. Israel is weighing whether to give a fourth shot to its citizens.

Some scientists have warned against a fourth shot, noting that there is not yet evidence that it is necessary and that some immune cells might eventually stop responding to the shots if too many doses are given.
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From: Carl (SPARTACUS) 8 Jan 11:03
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 8 of 51
Even better. They will come out with a mandatory Covid booster pill to be taken once a week. 
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 8 Jan 11:34
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 9 of 51
As that one article in the Times said, the more shots you get, the less effective and maybe it would weaken the antibodies in the system. I highlighted that paragraph where they were questioning having people get a second booster.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS) 8 Jan 17:22
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 10 of 51
The shots do affect each of us.... many differently. Who knows? Between no real data and no clear info on side effects..... it should scare anyone off.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 8 Jan 18:46
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 11 of 51
I stopped taking the flu shots even though there's always strong propaganda on TV urging us to get them. That vaccine is for last year's flu. The medical advice from every doctor they interview on TV tells us that the best way to prevent getting Covid is the shot. This is the same way they push the flu vaccine.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS) 8 Jan 21:22
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 12 of 51
"every doctor on tv" is not to be trusted. They are part of the cabal. I listed to doctors who actually treat patients and reside in podcast land. Most have been sued and thrown of twitter for saying getting the shot in many cases, makes it more likely you will catch it.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 9 Jan 11:03
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 13 of 51
Yea, Big Med and Big Pharm rule with Big Money.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS) 9 Jan 14:25
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 14 of 51
That is the story of life. 
From: Razz (RAZZMAN) 9 Jan 15:36
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 15 of 51
I used to read Natural News for natural healing, but they've gone mostly political these days, and to the extreme.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)10 Jan 10:05
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 16 of 51
Ya, once the discussion goes political, all logic is out.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)10 Jan 10:52
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 17 of 51
Natural News was excellent for alternative and natural remedies for disease and illness. Now it's all about conspiracy theories.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)10 Jan 10:58
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 18 of 51
Too bad. Everything seems to be political lately.
From: Razz (RAZZMAN)10 Jan 11:03
To: Carl (SPARTACUS) 19 of 51
Yea, I'm so tired of all this political and propaganda B.S. from both sides (right & left). I think the public deserves to know the real truth about everything, but their not going to get it from the modern day media.
From: Carl (SPARTACUS)10 Jan 12:13
To: Razz (RAZZMAN) 20 of 51
No kidding. I have to listen to detailed medical doctor podcasts who have patients, are treating them, and are being sued for thousands of dollars. They seem the most credible as they have skin in the game.